New Blog Airs Law Schools' Laundry

Deans aim for tough look at legal education.

, The National Law Journal


A trio of deans this month launched the first group blog written specifically by law school deans, with the intention of driving the national conversation about legal education.

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  • W.

    I concur with John's comments. The lack of transparency regarding employment outcomes and the game-playing has got to stop. The investment industry cannot get away with the tactics used by the education industry. I can't tell investors that you'll likely get a $100-160k return on your investment of $100-200k, when the reality is the chance of that happening is 10-20% but there's a 80-90% the return on investment will be $45k. There's no accountability.

  • NotanAttorney

    "It got to me at some level." -- Lawrence Mitchell

    Waaaaaah, your lies got called out as, you know, lies. Sorry the truth hurts.

  • Robin

    There are only a handful of Deans who have actually had a broad enough experience to comment on the state off legal education generally. Most law school Deans have very limited experience outside their own schools and their interests are very, very local. They work to advance the work of their schools and also to enhance their personal brand.I suspect the latter interests are what has mostly motivated these three Deans to take the truly brave and unique step of starting . . . a blog, of all things.

  • Peter E. Ryba

    Since law school deans don't practice law and are often not licensed in the States they teach in, running the them in at the ethics committee makes little sense. Law should be an undergraduate major like any other (albeit a 5 year program like engineering) and an additional year at an institution like the inns of the court for those who desire to try cases. This idea is of course stolen from the British who do quite well with this system.

  • Reality

    "Mitchell, Yellen and Dayton's McGreal said that some of the vitriol aimed at law deans has died down in recent months, making it a better time to engage a substantive conversation about how to address problems in legal education."

    Really? As far as I can tell, the vitriol is as strong as ever on Above the Law, JD Underground, Lawyers, Guns, and Money, and the comments sections everywhere from the Chronicle of Higher Education to TaxProf Blog to The Atlantic and The Wall Street Journal. As it should be: law schools continue to bury their students under shocking debt and with few job prospects. 55% of grads found legal jobs in 2011, 58% in 2012. $125,000 average law school student loan debt, excluding accumulating interest and undergrad debt. And no, IBR/PSLF/PAYE do not "solve" this. Meanwhile, methodologically shoddy claptrap like the "Million Dollar Degree" gets peddled by the nation's law school deans. They are the carnival barkers of non-profit higher education.

  • Patrcik

    There need to be ethics charges in the State bar. Why haven't there been these charges? Who is protecting whom?

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